On Beaver and Duck football, reffing in the NBA this season, Keanon Lowe’s movie, Terry Baker and the Heisman and death of a champion …

Knocking it around on a variety of subjects on a drizzly Sunday in the Willamette Valley …

• I can’t imagine Jonathan Smith got much sleep Saturday night.

Oregon State’s 27-24 loss to Stanford couldn’t have been much more painful for the third-year Beaver coach.

Losses like that are daggers to the heart a coach trying to build a program.